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The Naked Bible Podcast

Naked Bible 372: Revelation 7 Part 1

The Naked Bible Podcast

Dr. Michael S. Heiser

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.84.7K Ratings

🗓️ 18 April 2021

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Summary

Revelation 7 is the first of two passages in the book that refer to the 144,000. The passage bristles with questions. Who are these individuals, 12,000 from 12 tribes of Israel? Should we understand the 144,000 literally or metaphorically, or both? Why is the tribe of Dan omitted from the list? Why are the tribes of Joseph and Manasseh mentioned, when Manasseh (with Ephraim) constituted the tribe of Joseph? Why the tribal arrangement at all? Might the 144,000 still represent the Church and the twelve apostles? Are the 144,000 specially protected as the apocalypse plays out? In this episode we begin our journey into these and other questions with a specific eye to the role of the Old Testament in John’s thinking and theology.

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0:26.4

Welcome to the Naked Bible Podcast, episode 372, Revelation 7.

0:32.0

Part 1, the layman, Trastrick, and then he's the scholar, Dr. Michael Heiser, Hey Mike,

0:36.6

lots of sevens and not title.

0:38.8

That's true.

0:39.8

370 Revelation 7, part 1, it must be code for something.

0:46.0

Yeah, some kind of...

0:47.0

It's the key to unlocking the 144,000, so we're going to talk about today.

0:52.7

Yeah, yeah.

0:53.7

You've tackled that, I believe in a Q&A before, so I'm going to show you what more you have.

0:59.7

And a little bit to it.

1:00.7

Yeah, a little bit in reversing, Hermon, too.

1:03.7

What listeners need to do now is record this and play it backwards, and then you'll know.

1:08.0

Oh, nice.

1:09.0

Yeah, if I had sound effects, I would completely put something in there and reverse, but...

1:15.6

Hey, Ben, there you go.

1:17.6

Before we get into Revelation 7, I've been meaning to ask you about your thoughts.

1:23.6

On the new Dead Sea Scroll discoveries that happened a few weeks ago.

1:28.2

Yeah, you know, I've looked around on...

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