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My Thymus, Myself

Radiolab

WNYC Studios

Science, Natural Sciences, History, Society & Culture, Documentary

4.643.5K Ratings

🗓️ 1 July 2022

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

Today, we go to a spot that may be one of the most philosophical places in the universe: the thymus, an organ that knows what is you, and what is not you. Its mood may be existential, but its role is practical — the thymus is the biological training ground where the body learns to protect itself from outside invaders (think: bacteria, coronaviruses). But this training is not the humdrum bit of science you might expect. It’s a magical shadowland with dire consequences.

Then, we’ll leave the thymus to visit a team of doctors who are using this organ that protects you as a way to protect someone… else. Their work could change everything.

Special Thanks:

One thousand thanks to Hannah Meyer, Salomé Carcy, Josh Torres, and Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory for showing us a real-life (mouse) thymus for this episode. Special thanks also go to Diane Mathis and Kate Webb.

Further reading:

Wanna do a little light reading? Here’s the immunology textbook Jenni Punt and Sharon Stranford helped write, including a whole section on that funny little thing called AIRE! Kuby Immunology

The science paper that first described what happens inside the thymus as an, “immunological self shadow”.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey, I'm Lotha Fnazor, this is Radio Lab.

0:21.7

Today I'm handing over the reins to our senior correspondent Molly Webster.

0:26.3

Hi.

0:27.3

Hey, so what do you got for us Molly?

0:28.9

Okay, so I think you know that for the last couple of years I've been doing a lot of

0:33.0

reporting on immunity.

0:34.8

It's like with COVID and vaccines and everything.

0:38.4

It just kind of feels like the waters we've all been swimming in.

0:41.4

For sure.

0:42.4

For today I have a story that's not exactly about COVID and vaccines, but it is about this

0:48.7

part of the body that feels like one of the most elemental and mysterious parts of

0:55.7

the immune system, if not certainly the most philosophical.

1:00.3

Ooh, like I have no idea what you're about to say.

1:02.6

What is it?

1:03.6

Well, it is a tiny organ called the thymus.

1:06.6

And I want us to, I don't know, shall we say dissect this?

1:11.1

Get into this.

1:12.2

By going back to a conversation that I had with Chad about a year ago when I first learned

1:18.1

some of this stuff.

1:19.1

Okay.

1:20.1

Are you ready?

1:21.1

Go for it.

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