Hi, everybody. This is Gatsad. You've probably heard by now that the alleged assassin of Charlie Kirk has been caught.

He's a, I think, 22-year-old Utah resident, who's a university student who apparently got a scholarship to attend, you know, full scholarship

financial ride. And so he comes from apparently a good background and so on. So it's not as

though there is something intrinsically, you know, disastrous in his background that could

explain why this happened. not that, you know,

anything could justify what happened to Charlie. But what I wanted to spend time today is talk

about what I think should happen in terms of the opportunity to study peresitized mind.

So if when you think back of forensic psychiatry and forensic psychology,

which by the way it was an area that I had seriously thought about going into at one point,

and I discuss why I didn't in the happiness book.

What you often have are these experts who will interview, for example, serial killers

to really get an academic understanding of what made them do the things that they do.

Is it what percentage of it is due to nature?

What percentage is due to nurture?

Are you born a serial killer?

Are there any mitigating factors in your childhood that could have caused this?

And so on and so forth.

And so there's real value in trying to understand, you know, what are the dark forces that compel a serial

killer to become a serial killer. And the classic example that I'm thinking about in terms of

an interview, excuse me, is the Ice Man tapes where Dr. Park

Dietz, who is arguably the most famous forensic psychiatrist in the United States, he's worked

on many famous cases, and I briefly discuss

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