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Musk’s DOGE needs to be ‘much more transparent’ in spending cuts, former GAO head says

PBS News Hour - Segments

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4.11K Ratings

🗓️ 12 February 2025

⏱️ 7 minutes

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The House subcommittee that bears the same acronym as Elon Musk's agency, DOGE, held its first hearing Wednesday. While members from both parties said they were focused on rooting out waste and fraud, Democrats pointed out the man at the heart of today’s hearing did not appear. Amna Nawaz discussed the debate with David Walker, former head of the Government Accountability Office. PBS News is supported by - https://www.pbs.org/newshour/about/funders

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0:00.0

Well, also on Capitol Hill today, the House subcommittee that bears a slightly different name

0:05.7

but the same acronym as Elon Musk's agency, Doge, held its first hearing.

0:10.3

Well, members from both parties say they were focused on rooting out waste and fraud.

0:14.7

Democrats were quick to point out that Musk did not appear before the committee.

0:18.8

Directly to Mr. Elon Musk.

0:21.6

We are well aware that you are eager to engage with members of Congress on social media,

0:29.6

but we're not here to play.

0:31.6

If you have serious desire to engage in democracy and transparency, we welcome you to the Oversight Committee.

0:40.4

Come and testify in front of the American people under oath because we want to know what you're up to.

0:47.5

Meanwhile, Republicans took aim at their colleagues across the aisle.

0:52.0

If we've learned anything so far, it's that Republicans want to cut waste, fraud, and abuse

0:58.0

from our federal government and save taxpayer dollars.

1:01.0

And Democrats want a grandstand and play politics.

1:06.0

For some more perspective on this, we turn now to David Walker.

1:09.0

Between 1998 and 2008, he headed the U.S.

1:12.5

Government Accountability Office that investigates federal spending. David, welcome to the NewsHour.

1:17.6

Thanks for joining us. Good to be with you on that. So I think it's fair to say you'd be hard

1:22.0

pressed to find someone who says there's absolutely no waste or fraud in government spending. But when you look at what Doge is

1:30.5

doing and how they're doing the job so far, do you think that they're targeting the waste and

1:35.6

fraud that you think they should be? Well, what they're doing is they're really doing a review

1:40.6

of information systems and transactions. They're not doing an audit. And they're identifying

1:46.3

areas that could be fraud, waste, abuse, or mismanagement. In most cases, it's arguably waste and

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