There's no sort of false appreciation I don't think in an audience, you know, sort of heard mentality isn't,

oh let's make these people on stage feel better, is it? And neither should it be.

That's not what we're there for. We all know what we're encountering when we go into this.

It gets better because it has to get better.

We're all made of humans. better.

We're all made of human.

Hello, my name is Sophie Hagen. I'm a stand-up comedian and you are listening to the Made of Human podcast.

It's sort of just a nice chatty

podcast in which I speak to people to try and find out how to do life. Turns out

no one knows no one has any idea how to do life, so it ends up just being me speaking to people

and then I feel less alone with the weirdness and this week I'm speaking to Hadley Fraser.

There's a chance you don't know Hadley Fraser is. I mean you'll

know if you only listen to this because you're a fan of Hadley Fraser's. Usually I think people

who are a fan of Hadley Fraser are not necessarily fan of my podcast or the other people I have as guests because I usually

chat to comedians and stuff and I okay the reason I'm preempting this is because I feel this episode is so incredibly special to me.

And I don't know if I can even properly justify it. I have been a huge fan of Hadley Fraser since I first saw him in Phantom of the Opera,

maybe seven or eight years ago,

like a huge, like a huge fan, like a silly fan.

I think it was during a time when I had to project a lot of things onto something and then I saw I'm saying and I love voices.

Voices has always been the thing in my life. My mom when I was a child she would like shout like,

get into the living room, get into the living room now and I get into the living room get into the living room now and I

run into the living room and she would be like listen and there would be anyone

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