Musa al-Gharbi on Elite Wokeness, Islam, and Social Movements

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Society & Culture, Education

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🗓️ 16 October 2024

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Musa al-Gharbi is a sociologist and assistant professor at Stony Brook University whose research explores how people think about, talk about, and produce shared knowledge about race, inequality, social movements, extremism, policing, and other social phenomena. His new book, We Have Never Been Woke: The Cultural Contradictions of a New Elite, examines the rise and fall of wokeness among America’s elites and explores the underlying social forces at play.

Tyler and Musa explore the rise and fall of the "Great Awokening" and more, including how elite overproduction fuels social movements, why wokeness tends to fizzle out, whether future waves of wokeness will ratchet up in intensity, why neuroticism seems to be higher on the political Left, how a great awokening would manifest in a Muslim society, Black Muslims and the Nation of Islam, why Musa left Catholicism, who the greatest sociologist of Islam is, Muslim immigration and assimilation in Europe, and more.

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Recorded September 19th, 2024.

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0:00.0	Hi listeners this is Tyler and I wanted to take a moment to tell you about a new
0:08.2	podcast that we have here at the Mercatus Center it's called Pluralist Points. It's a new show hosted by our new executive
0:16.3	director, Ben Clutsey. Ben speaks with guests who are working to create an environment
0:21.8	that promotes productive civil discourse around the tough issues facing
0:25.8	our world.
0:26.8	Then talks with a wide range of people, including our guest on today's podcast, Musa Al Garby. If you like Conversations with Tyler, I'm sure you'll like
0:36.0	Pluralist Points. To check out Pluralist Points, click the link at the top of the show notes to subscribe on YouTube, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your favorite
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1:10.0	For a full transcript of every conversation enhanced with helpful links, visit
1:14.8	Conversations with Tyler.com.
1:18.6	Hello everyone and welcome back to conversations with Tyler.
1:23.7	Today I'm happy to be chatting with Musa Al Garby.
1:27.0	He is a sociologist, an assistant professor at Stony Book,
1:31.6	already a very well-known public intellectual, and October 8th is the publication
1:36.3	day for his new and excellent book, We Have Never Been Woke, the cultural contradictions
1:41.3	of the New Elite, I'm very happy to have blurbed it.
1:44.3	Musa, welcome.
1:46.0	Thank you so much for being here.
1:47.8	And thank you so much for your kind words on the book.
1:51.1	I'm sure you've been thinking about this question, but how much is the
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