On July 9, 1975, a 20-year-old aspiring actor named Kelsey Grammer boarded a flight to Colorado,

not for a role or an audition, but to identify the body of his little sister.

Before he became known as Frazier Crane, Kelsey was just a big brother who shared a close bond with his sister Karen.

When she was murdered just weeks before her 19th birthday, it shattered his world.

Hey guys, and welcome to the Moms and Mysteries podcast, a true crime podcast featuring myself,

Mandy, and my dear friend, Melissa, hi, Melissa. Hi, Mandy. How are you?

I'm doing great. Melissa, how are you doing?

I'm wonderful. Thank you so much for asking.

Mandy, I did something so fun this week and I think you should do it. And you may have done it before, but I fully recommend it.

If you're coming to Orlando, I think people should do it. It's the out of control magic comedy dinner show. It's at Wonderworks. Fun. So fun. I think the tickets for like $25. Me and my sister brought our two boys and came with pizza, salad, dessert. They're really good with food allergies. And it was a really fun magic show where he's

taking people up on the stage. And he's done it for like 25 years. Like it's the longest running

dinner, theater, magic comedy thing. And I thought it was so much fun. Like, I don't know. I think you

would enjoy it. At least your younger boy would enjoy it. I don't know if the older one. There's like an age where you get kind of too cool for this stuff. And you just don't enjoy anything when you're 15. Yeah, everything. I was I was sitting next to a teenager and I was like, oh, this is going to suck. And then she was cracking up the whole time. So I was like, okay. Yeah, it was a lot of fun. Oh, cool. Yeah. I will have to look into that. I definitely think my youngest would really enjoy that. And now his older brother is off usually doing other things with his friends. So that's something. It sounds fun. I could take the little one, too. Yeah, it's really fun. You'll like it. So we'll get right into the story this week. There is a lot to cover. And this is a story that has been in the media a lot before and actually kind of is currently,

it was talked about by Kelsey Grammar himself. So this is the case that we're excited to share

this week. Karen Grammer was born on July 15, 1956 to Sally and Alan Grammar. She was smart as a

whip and talented as a poet and she lived her life with joy and compassion.

Karen and her brother Kelsey were exceptionally close, and they had been through a lot together in their childhood.

After their parents divorced, their dad moved to the Virgin Islands and was rarely seen again.

Then, in April of 1968, their father was murdered at his home in St. Thomas,

and we won't go into a ton of detail on his murder, but it appears that he was murdered in retaliation

for racism. So Kelsey and Karen were raised by their mom and their grandparents in Florida. Their

grandfather, Gordon, was a war hero and someone who offered stability in their lives.

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