What is going on true crime fans? I'm your host T. And I'm your host Daphne. And you're listening to Going West. Hello everybody.

Thank you so much for tuning in today. Big shout out to Barbara and Sarah, who both recommended

this case. This story has some very interesting early 1900s history that will take us directly

to the main story we have today that takes place in 1985, which is truly a horror story.

I mean, so much so that I can't even believe we haven't already covered this one. I feel like

we're pretty familiar with California and Oregon cases, since obviously those are both of our

home states. But this one is completely new to us, and it is shocking.

Indeed.

So without further ado, let's dive right in.

All right, guys, this is episode 498 of going west, so let's get into it.

So let's get into it. In February of 1985, two teenage girls headed out for an unofficial tour of a historic abandoned

mansion outside of San Francisco. But once they arrived, the security officer outside who had a bad reputation in the area took this opportunity to prey on the girls.

And what followed was a night of horror that only one of the teens would survive.

This is the murder at the Carolyn Chateau.

The Carolyn Lestown. The Carolans Chateau was originally commissioned in 1914 for Harriet Pullman and her husband, Frank Carolyn.

Harriet Pullman was the daughter of Chicago train magnate George Pullman, who was one of the

wealthiest men in the country during his lifetime. George had actually designed a sleeper

train car that was so popular that an eponymous town sprang up, so a town named after him,

Pullman, located around the manufacturing plant of

the sleeper train, which is still a neighborhood on the south side of Chicago, Illinois today.

But back to Harriet. So she was the second of Georgia's four children, and she met her future

husband, Frank Carlin, while on a trip to San Francisco

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