Welcome back to Talking Feds, a prosecutor's roundtable that brings together your favorite

former Department of Justice officials for a dynamic discussion of the most important

legal topics of the day, including the investigations of President Trump and his circle.

Today, the four-page cryptic letter from Bill Barr to the Congress and the non-decision

by Special Counsel Robert Mueller on potential obstruction of justice charges by President Trump.

Finally, we'll talk about what if anything is now left open to decide.

I'm Harry Littman, I'm a former United States Attorney and Deputy Assistant Attorney General

and also an Assistant United States Attorney or a wine prosecutor.

Today, I'm joined by Barbara McQuade. She's now a professor at the University of Michigan,

but she was for eight years the United States Attorney for the Eastern District of Michigan,

and for many years before that an Assistant US Attorney, how long were you and a USA bar?

Twelve years, Harry, and I find that experience to be more relevant even than the experience

of this US Attorney being a line prosecutor. And did you pretty much cycle through all the

different divisions in the Eastern District or were you focused on one in particular?

Well, I started in our general crimes unit doing a host of all kinds of miscellaneous cases,

but I spent most of my time as an USA in the National Security Unit focusing on those kinds of cases.

With Barbara and me is Mimi Rocah, who you've seen many times on MSNBC as you have barbed.

She's now a distinguished fellow in criminal justice at PACE Law School before then.

You were also for many years an Assistant US Attorney in a sleepy office and the East Coast.

Where were you and how long were you there?

I was at this place called the Southern District of New York. You may or may not have heard of it.

And I was there for a total of 16 and a half years. I got to oversee all different kinds of cases

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