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Well, here we go. Another hearing welcome to meet the press.

Now I'm Chuck Todd, just a few minutes ago, you saw the January 6th committee.

Rapped up, it is third public hearing. The focus of this one was Trump's pressure campaign

on Mike Pence in order to overturn the election. The hearing was essentially divided up into two parts.

First was the White House's pressure campaign on vice president Pence

to somehow accept the analysis that he had the power to overturn the results of the election.

Using a theory, they themselves knew was unconstitutional.

The committee presented a barrage of evidence that the vice president had no power to overturn

the election. The vice president never believed he had that power and that Trump was told over

and over again that the idea was unconstitutional. That he knew that what he was telling the

vice president to do was illegal and so did the people around him. But they pushed it anyway.

The second part of the hearing laid out more of the danger Pence was in on January 6th

when he did not cave to the pressure to somehow suspend that, the counting of the votes

in order to allow more time to overturn the election. In the first part of the hearing,

we also heard that both Rudy Giuliani and John Eastman admitted that their legal theory was bogus

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