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MTG's 'national divorce’ comments caused a firestorm this week, Historian Shirley thinks this could be the reality in 20 years

John Solomon Reports

John Solomon

Politics, News

4.66.1K Ratings

🗓️ 25 February 2023

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Historian Craig Shirley discusses Biden’s legacy “as the worst President in U.S. history, the crisis of unity in America, and Marjorie Taylor Greene 'national divorce’ comments, and why that may be the reality in 20 years at the rate the US is going. Shirley comments, this has “happened before in our history. And we're foolish to think it won't happen again, it's hard to imagine now, but 20 years from now, 30 years from now is that won't be that hard to imagine, America breaking up into two separate republics. You have New England and New York and New Jersey. And the West Coast is one part a part of one country, and Idaho, and the south and Tennessee, and Ohio, as part of our other country, and there'll be trade agreements, there'll be mutual defense agreements and things like that. But we're, we're completely balkanized. Now, you look at everything, whether the food, or what we watch, what we read, what we listen to, there's nothing that unifies us anymore as a nation.” Saying, that American has nothing like the "space race or manifest destiny or many other things, there's nothing that unifies us, our language, you know, we speak with many different languages now. In every way, we're, we're slowly breaking up as a nation. It's not that we've ever really been unified anyway. But it's getting worse. The only times we're ever really unified, was on the afternoon, December 7, 1941, that we were for a couple of years. And then, and then the afternoon of 911 but that only lasted a couple of months."

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0:00.0

Hello American happy Saturday. Oh do we have a show for you? We're gonna spend the whole

0:10.7

day with the noted historian Craig Shirley. He's got some thoughts about the Biden presidency,

0:16.3

how it ranks, what its parallels are to the Carter presidency of the 1970s, and so much

0:21.9

more including some really stunning thoughts about the idea that Marjorie Taylor Green floated

0:28.7

earlier this week about dividing America into two. You're going to be surprised with what

0:34.4

Craig Shirley has to think about that idea. Buck here, seat belt, it's gonna be great show today.

0:38.9

We'll be right back after these commercial messages.

0:47.0

All right folks, welcome back for the commercial break. Since the State of the Union we've been

0:50.6

talking so much about Joe Biden, his rhetoric versus his performance, and the parallels that a lot

0:56.3

of people see to the Carter presidency with the Biden presidency, there's no better person to

1:01.7

put all this into perspective than the great author, the great conservative thought leader,

1:06.4

and the greatest historian, Craig Shirley. He joins us right now, Craig, great to have you on

1:10.3

the podcast. Thank you John Burber much. We enjoyed you so much on President's Day. I enjoy doing it.

1:16.6

People were talking about that interview all day, Monday, all day Tuesday, you're onto something,

1:21.1

and I think people are beginning to realize how historic the Biden presidency is, and I'm not

1:26.9

talking about historic in a good sense. You've got a brand new column that I think knocks it out

1:31.6

of the park. I've heard a lot of people think about this, that Biden's legacy made me the creation

1:35.7

of the new malice, sort of the Jimmy Carter moment that we all remember from 79 and 80. Tell us a

1:41.3

little bit about what you see from a historical perspective with Joe Biden.

1:45.7

Well, in Jimmy Carter's defense, Joe Biden is a far worse president than that Jimmy Carter.

1:52.8

Jimmy Carter was well-intentioned. When he came to Washington, he came, he was pro-life. He was

1:59.4

tough on the Soviets, tougher than Gerald Ford was. Wanted to recognize Alexander Sosa needs

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