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This is CBSI in the world. I'm John Bachelor. The US Congress, especially the House of Representatives,

in disrepair. And yet, the work of the Congress, especially the House of Representatives,

is budget. And that began this conversation that ended with Speaker McCarthy losing his job

and now we await a new speaker. And yet, the budget is still pertinent to the United States,

to the future. I welcome Veronique de Rige, the Mercatus Centre who writes a creator's syndicate.

Topic that is always with us, never solved, and sometimes I puzzle whether Congress

really believes in what I'm about to say. The deficit is a consequence of spending too much money

without taking the comparable amount in revenue, spending too much money. Households understand this,

humans understand it, but not Congress. Veronique, before I illustrate what is happening in America

by traveling the country from association to association, worried about the immediate future,

the spending by the Congress. Did you see any evidence in this most recent spat over the

debt ceiling and closing the government? Was there attention in the Democratic side of the

Republican side or even a lone soldier in the room about the scale of government spending

unabated? Good evening to you. Good evening, John. I mean, for Congress as a whole, no, there's no,

there's no sign. And even when you look at the administration, there's no signs on the Republican

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