Mr. Graham and the Reasonable Man

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🗓️ 30 November 2017

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Summary

On a fall afternoon in 1984, Dethorne Graham ran into a convenience store for a bottle of orange juice. Minutes later he was unconscious, injured, and in police handcuffs. In this episode, we explore a case that sent two Charlotte lawyers on a quest for true objectivity, and changed the face of policing in the US.

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0:00.0	Leadership support for more perfect is provided by the Joyce Foundation.
0:09.5	Before we get going, just a quick warning.
0:11.5	This podcast contains some descriptions of graphic violence and also some strong language.
0:16.4	So be warned.
0:17.4	So nice to see you again, Jen.
0:25.7	Why did you say that with some venom?
0:27.3	What was that all about?
0:28.3	It's just you've been away for a while.
0:31.8	The only way I can see you is when I come visit you with your other family.
0:37.0	Okay, so this is Radio Lab producer Matt Keelty.
0:40.4	Yeah.
0:41.4	We're talking about, what are we talking about?
0:43.1	We're talking about a Supreme Court case from 1989.
0:46.6	And today Matt has a story that he's been reporting for about two years that we are going
0:50.8	to play both here on more perfect and also here on Radio Lab.
0:55.5	So buckle up.
0:57.3	Where should we start?
0:58.3	I think we might as well just start.
1:00.6	Should I try to sound Southern?
1:02.7	With a guy named Woody Kinet.
1:04.3	I'm a lawyer with Essex Richards, a law firm in Charlotte, North Carolina.
1:08.2	We'll pick it up in 1985.
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