You're listening to episode 105, Motherhood in Samia.

I'm a mom, I'm tired all day but can't sleep at night.

What's the deal?

Welcome to this episode.

I am talking to Dr. Shelby Harris about a topic

that I think so many of us moms can resonate with,

which is Motherhood in Samia.

Dr. Shelby Harris is a clinical psychologist board certified behavioral sleep medicine doctor and

author. Thank you so much for joining me today. Thank you so much for having me. I'm excited to

be here and talk. So we are talking about motherhood insomnia, which is a real thing, a real deal and

something I think a more mom should know about. But first, tell me more about yourself and what you do.

So I am a clinical psychologist by training. So that means that for me, I do a cognitive

behavioral therapy for anxiety and depression. I work with teens and adults. But my main area

specialties in sleep medicine. So I used to run the behavioral sleep medicine lab at Montefur in

New York City and now I'm in private practice. So I treat patients with insomnia, trouble with

compliance for their sleep apnea, nightmares, sleep walking, and I do it all using evidence-based

treatment approaches that don't use medication. And I work alongside MDs in sleep medicine all the time.

Oh, I love it. I love that we're going to talk about things that, you know, I'm all about medicine.

If it's needed, but I love non-medical interventions as well. That is my go-to as a pediatrician,

meaning I know medicines are there. I know they're fantastic and they do so much. But I'm a DO

and also just my philosophy on medicine has always been, what can we do before leaning on medicines

if we need that? So I'm just so glad we found each other. And so yeah, thank you so much. So

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