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Surviving the Survivor: #BestGuests in True Crime

Moscow Police Release New Crime Scene Photos, Surveillance Video of BK & Stalking the IDAHO4 Victims

Surviving the Survivor: #BestGuests in True Crime

Big Pond Podcasts

True Crime, Society & Culture, News

4.61K Ratings

🗓️ 13 August 2025

⏱️ 22 minutes

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0:00.0

Welcome to the global phenomenon, surviving the survivor, where we bring you the best guests in all of true crime.

0:07.6

Here's your host, Emmy Award winning journalist Joel Waldman.

0:12.0

Did BK befriend Murphy, the dog in the house at 1122, King Road, so that he could sneak into that house eventually undetected.

0:25.2

Did Xana Kernodal disrupt BK during the murders and did that end up leading to his capture?

0:34.6

Did prosecutors make the right call by striking a deal? We try to answer some of those

0:40.8

questions right now. What's up, St.S Nation? Welcome to Survive and Survivor. This is the show that

0:46.2

brings you the very best guests in all of true crime. But tonight, here's truly, Joel, is

0:53.8

rolling solo under the video tab here to bring

0:58.0

you the very latest on these horrific murders that happened back on the evening of November

1:03.8

13th, 2022 in the very, very early morning hours. And as I do, anytime I discuss this case, I tell you the names

1:14.8

of the victims. And of course, they are Kaley Gonzalez, 21, Maddie Mogan, 21. And then

1:22.4

Ethan Chapin and his girlfriend, Zana Kernarnodl, both 20 years old.

1:28.5

Of course, Ethan, he is a triplet.

1:31.4

And now the two other siblings must go through life, despite being triplets, just the two of them together.

1:39.6

So that is tragic and very, very sad.

1:44.3

Today, we're going to dive a little bit deeper into some of the haunting crime scene

1:49.4

photos.

1:50.8

They have been released, what we're calling Xanacronautil's last stand.

1:57.5

Also, Kaylee Gonzalez's father, Steve Gonzalez, who I saw at the sentencing, I was able to give him a hug.

2:05.3

We talked for a few moments.

2:07.0

He had that leg that was shaking ahead of that amazing victim impact statement.

2:12.6

Well, he has an emotional plea in the last few days, and prosecutors have a little bit of a new theory on some of BK's stalking and even

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