Welcome back to the Wolverine.com podcast. I'm John Borton here with one of our favorites that we haven't talked to in a while, your play-by-playing man for Michigan basketball, Brian Bush, who is also heavily involved in the football broadcast, does a great job with the Defending the Block podcast.

We're going to reference that a little bit today because he's talked to some interesting

people. Brian, welcome back to the podcast.

Always good to be here, John.

I like the new backdrop.

I see we're upgraded for 22, 23.

Oh, absolutely.

We want to, you know, change is good.

As the late Gary Mueller used to say,

you get better or you get worse. And he got that from Beauchembeckler. And that kind of leads us

right into our first topic. We did have a sad note this week in the passing of Gary Mueller. I know you weren't around here during the time that he

was head coach at Michigan, but I know you've gotten to know an awful lot of former players and

guys that played with him. Your thoughts on this loss for Michigan football. Yeah, I mean, obviously a sad day.

And, you know, I think in my time doing research about him before, you know,

his health has started to deteriorate, you know, how many guys nowadays can coach

as an offensive and a defensive coordinator?

You know, you'll see some movement from a position coach standpoint, but, you know, any more,

it seems like, you know, offensive gurus are, you know, that's all they focus on defensively.

That's, you know, pretty much your lockdown thing.

I mean, could you imagine if, you know,

Mike McDonald had transferred over to the offense this year? I mean, that's pretty wild. But,

you know, for me, it's ever since I started doing the podcast with Jansen, hearing about what

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