Now it's time for the last word with Ali Valshie. Good evening, Ali. Good evening, Rachel.

And I'm trying to figure out what, whether, how much of what people are mad about is the stuff that we knew that they would do because they all wrote it down in a 922 page book.

And the other stuff that nobody bargained for. The stuff that people who in good faith voted for Donald Trump did not expect that would happen,

including, I mean, having a bunch of people look at the government to find efficiencies is one thing,

and it might even be laudable.

The way this is unfolded is not laudable.

The politicization of literally everything they do is not laudable.

And I think that's triggered a whole bunch of people to say,

politics has consequences, but this isn't what we thought was going to happen.

Yes, I think that's right, Ali. And I do think that it's not, it's not always predictable in the

abstract what people are going to have strong reactions to. I think one of the things people have

the strongest reaction to, at least my anecdotal experience talking to people about it, is that the fact that people

who are seemingly unvetted, in some cases seemingly untrained, and in many ways seeming unofficial,

have access to people's very sensitive data that we don't have a choice about whether or not

we hand it to the government. If you live in this country, you have to pay taxes. You have

to interact with the government and pay taxes. You have to have a social security record.

You have to give the government all of this data that is very personal, very sensitive,

potentially very damaging if it was messed with, lost,

or exploited. And to have whatever this Elon Musk effort is, the president's top campaign

owner running some effort where unvetted people are messing around with that stuff, that I think,

has actually caused a very visceral reaction. And a lot of people who might otherwise not be

motivated about some of the

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