More Clippers Circumvention Evidence + Josh Giddey Signs; CHI Outlook With Will Gottlieb

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Nate Duncan

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🗓️ 12 September 2025

⏱️ 88 minutes

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Summary

Nate reacts to Pablo Torre's latest reporting indicating that Clippers co-owner Dennis Wong made a suspicious investment in Aspiration shortly before Kawhi Leonard was given an overdue payment by the ailing company. Will Gottlieb of CHGO is our guest to discuss Josh Giddey agreeing to a 4-year/ $100 million restricted free agency contract. We break down how the Bulls did in terms of value and what this means for the roster going forward, plus Giddey's prospects this season. Then, a look ahead to this Bulls season as a whole. How will exciting young forwards Matas Buzelis and Noa Essengue develop? Who are the progression and regression candidates? How did Billy Donovan manage to keep this team out of the bottom-10 on both sides of the ball last season, and can he do it again? Plus, we make our predictions for the Bulls season.

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0:00.0	I'm going to do a little solo mini pod here on the Kauai Leonard allegations.
0:05.2	The latest coming out from Pablo Torre about a week now after his initial reporting, he's got more.
0:12.6	And this perhaps even more damning than the initial report, which you'll recall had Steve Ballmer investing $50 million in aspiration, and then
0:24.5	Kauai eventually, including a report from Boston Sports Journal, being paid $48 million, 20 of that
0:32.3	in stock options, $28 million over four years, was supposed to be in cash.
0:37.9	So to take you through the timeline here that Tori laid out, which again, his latest podcast
0:43.8	is just excellent.
0:44.8	This is excellent reporting.
0:46.8	Recall that Kauai forms this LLC November, I believe it was, of 21.
0:52.7	This is around the time that even Steve Balmer admitted that
0:56.5	aspiration asked to be put in touch with Kauai. The actual agreement for the $28 million and the
1:02.5	no-show job is not promulgated until the spring of 2022. According to Pablo Torre, this agreement
1:09.5	called for quarterly payments.
1:12.1	So 1.75 million times four, that's the $7 million per year.
1:17.4	The first payment is late.
1:18.8	Second payment doesn't arrive at all.
1:20.9	And by this point, we're deep into the fall of 2022, and Aspirations in big trouble.
1:26.4	Tori talks to the second person who worked in the financial department at Aspiration.
1:31.8	Love the disguised voice, by the way.
1:34.6	It's really been updated from the days of, you know, a guy showing up on Dateline NBC or whatever
1:40.2	to have crazy millennial vocal fry.
1:43.8	So congratulations to whoever is doing this voice
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