Hello and welcome to the latest episode of the Dungeons and Dragons

podcast this is your host for this week Bart Carroll along with Shelly

Mazzenoble. Today we talk with Brie Heise, graphic designer, and Kate Irwin, art director.

Hi guys!

Hi Shelly!

Who are you?

I am super excited about this. How long have we been talking about the podcast?

Like you guys being on guests on the podcast?

Forever. It seems like forever.

Even longer. This is Bree's lifelong dream being realized.

Yes.

And Bart, just so you know, you are here to keep us on track because we have a tendency to go on tangents.

I'm here to do the intro and that's about it.

That's it.

Thanks for that. But really we're very excited. I think that

listeners will be really excited because, and I hope you guys know this, but when we see a lot of great feedback

about the core rulebooks, which you are both deeply involved in,

a lot of that feedback share they talk about the rules and how awesome these new mechanics are

and the fifth edition rule set is, but they also talk about how beautiful these

books are and how gorgeous their books are laid out and how great the artwork looks and it's

just like this whole new look and feel and the covers are

super dynamic so I hope that you you do see that feedback because yeah that makes me

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