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Hello, welcome to Money Talks from Slate Money, our show where we talk to fascinating and brilliant people about fascinating and interesting things.

I'm Felix Salmon of Axios and my favorite thing that I've ever done, pretty much,

is the series of Slate Money Succession Recaps

that we ran here on this show with a bunch of brilliant people.

And now I am very, very sad

because the one brilliant person that we never had on Slate Money Succession was McKay Coppins, currently of the Atlantic.

McKay, welcome.

Thank you for having me.

I'm sorry to have missed the Succession Recaps as well, but we can probably get into it a little bit here.

I feel like this is exactly what we're going to do.

We're just going to have a conversation about something, well, which is probably even better

than Succession, which is the real life family drama of the Murdoch family, a subject which

has been an obsession of many people, but that you seem to have become something of an overnight expert in,

given your, I think I'm right in saying, like pretty much unprecedented degree of access to

James and Catherine Murdo. I think that's probably true as far as journalists go. And it's funny

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