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MONEY REIMAGINED: The Politicizing of Crypto and Gensler’s Response to a Question of Law.

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4.7698 Ratings

🗓️ 21 April 2023

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

This episode is sponsored by EY and Brave.  On this episode of “Money Reimagined,” Michael Casey and Sheila Warren dive right into Gary Gensler's response to a question of law by Rep. Patrick McHenry during the House oversight hearing of Gensler’s Securities and Exchange Commission earlier this week. Sheila and Michael discuss partisanship, climate disclosures, and the role of the SEC. A reshaping is taking place of what powers administrative agencies are allowed and the defined responsibilities of Congress and the courts. In this episode  Michael and Sheila discuss: Gensler's response to a question of law by Rep. Patrick McHenry Partisanship, climate disclosures and the role of the SEC The role of government  How crypto is getting politicized The role of regulators in the future Regulation by enforcement after the fact  The second time in the crypto industry that unscrupulous actors are engaging in activities that hurt people Pro-regulatory stance on regulation The progressive pro-regulator stance on this issue The shadow of the threat Responsible actors: good and bad No accommodation for innovation The sword of Damocles hanging over U.S. partners The CFTC  action against Binance Regulation and innovation Recognizing the pain that people felt in California The need for regulation and innovation Let open-source, permissionless innovation happen in a constructive way. Crypto is a proxy for other issues. Inter-agency territoriality Inter-agency territorial conflict between SEC and CFTC Importance of context in these conversations Early warning sign with ICOs in 2017 Regulation needs to differentiate between good and bad actors Regulation of digital assets and licensing Bermuda's strict licensing requirements The massive erosion of trust after FTX Joint responsibility of regulators and the industry  Crypto is not as partisan as it seems. The problem with simplistic black-and-white solutions. Nuance always gets lost, and that's part of the problem.  See Also: YouTube -  Hearing Entitled: Oversight of the Securities and Exchange Commission From our sponsors: EY blockchain solutions can transform the business lifecycle for digital ecosystems, by promoting trust, transparency, privacy and efficiency.  EY: Helping you build a better working world. Find out more at blockchain.ey.com Brave is the privacy browser used by almost 60 million people worldwide. The built-in Brave Wallet is your secure passport to Web3. It supports over 100 chains, fiat purchases, swaps, NFTs, and even connects with other wallets and DApps. All right in your browser. No risky extensions, no spoofing. Learn more at brave.com/wallet. - Money Reimagined has been produced and edited by senior producer Michele Musso and our executive producer is Jared Schwartz. Our theme song is “AITA” by Neon Beach. Join the most important conversation in crypto and Web3 at Consensus 2023, happening April 26-28 in Austin, Texas. Come and immerse yourself in all that Web3, crypto, blockchain and the metaverse have to offer. Use code MONEYREIMAGINED to get 15% off your pass. Visit coindesk.com/consensus. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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0:00.0

This episode is sponsored by EY and Brave.

0:10.4

Money is changing, both in form and function.

0:16.2

Money Reimagined is about the changing nature of money, digital currencies, and various topics related

0:22.0

to finance, blockchain technology, artificial intelligence, and more. Michael Casey and Sheila

0:28.1

Warren walk us through the dynamic and evolving nature of the global economy and the implications

0:33.5

for businesses, governments, and individuals as they must adapt to new payment methods and

0:38.7

technologies. Welcome to Money Reimagined.

0:47.2

Hello and welcome to Money Reimagined. I'm Sheila Warren. It's been a busy week on Capitol Hill

0:53.5

with hearings involving stable coins and also

0:56.7

the first time in 18 months that Gary Gensler appeared before the House Financial Services Committee.

1:01.5

Here's a clip. Is ether a commodity or a security? Without speaking to anyone, I know you've repeatedly

1:09.6

said you're not going to speak to one,

1:11.3

except you've spoken to one, Bitcoin. So I'm asking to speak to a second one, the second largest

1:16.8

market cap here. And speaking to the tokens, there's 10 to 12,000. If there's a group of entrepreneurs

1:23.2

in the field, and the public is anticipating a profit based on the... I'm asking a specific question, Chair Gensler. I said this about one. The public is anticipating a profit based on the...

1:27.8

I'm asking a specific question, Chair Gensler.

1:30.5

I said this in private.

1:31.7

This should be no shock to you.

1:33.4

I'm asking this question.

1:35.0

Is it an...

1:35.7

Is ether a commodity or a security?

1:38.8

And again, it depends on the facts in the law.

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