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Prevail with Greg Olear

Money, Lies, God, and the Taxonomy of Reactionary Nihilism (with Katherine Stewart)

Prevail with Greg Olear

Greg Olear & MSW Media

News Commentary, News, Politics

5630 Ratings

🗓️ 21 February 2025

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

Katherine Stewart is the author of The Power Worshippers: Inside the Dangerous Rise of Religious Nationalism, the award-winning book upon which the documentary feature, God & Country, produced by Rob Reiner and Michele Reiner, is based. She has covered the intersection of faith and politics for over 15 years; her work appears in the New York Times, The Washington Post, the New Republic, the Guardian, and Religion News Service, and she has been featured on broadcast media outlets such as MSNBC, CNN, and NPR. Her 2012 book, The Good News Club, covered the religious right’s effort to infiltrate and undermine public education. Her spectacular new book, MONEY, LIES, AND GOD: Inside the Movement to Destroy American Democracy, came out this week. Greg Olear talks to Stewart about the rise of Christian nationalism in the United States, the impetus for writing the book, her research process, the rhetoric of the movement and the lies used to boost its popularity, reactionary nihilism, the various factions within the movement, and what we can do to take democracy back.

Transcript

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0:00.0

MSW Media.

0:04.7

Well, we knew there were going to be epic levels of corruption,

0:08.8

but what we're starting to see is the sort of heroic levels of corruption.

0:14.2

I mean, let's look at Musk.

0:16.2

Preveal.

0:17.2

It's a shot of Geneva program for political.

0:20.5

History, the security national.. The history, the national.

0:22.8

Criminal organized,

0:24.2

money soo,

0:25.5

global unruci,

0:27.7

and a brooky for democracy.

0:30.6

And now,

0:32.5

and now,

0:33.1

with you,

0:34.8

your ambition,

0:36.3

Gregoor.

0:37.7

Gregoer. Regolian. Regal

0:38.3

I'm Greg Oliar.

0:53.0

I'm Greg Oliar. This is Prevail. Welcome to the program. We've got a great show. Catherine

1:00.0

Stewart is here to talk about her new book, Money, Lies, and God, Inside the Movement to Destroy American Democracy.

1:08.9

This book is urgent, essential. It's just a really spectacular work of

1:13.6

journalism as everything she does this, but this one particularly is like, you know, elite.

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