Roger, I want to actually kind of a strange question, you know, a lot of people in life and even in

this crypto space, they dream of being rich. And yet for you, this is something I think you

probably accomplished early on. And I was wondering if maybe you could glean some of knowledge of your

knowledge or experience in this space because it sounds like your relationship with money is

different than a lot of people out there. A lot of people say, once I become rich, my life will

be fine. Then I'll be happy. Then I'll get the wife I want. And yet anyone who's made money

knows that that doesn't really happen that way. And yet you got to learn this lesson early on,

Roger. And so I'm curious, what's your relationship with money been like over the years? And can you

give any wisdom to people out there that are, you know, waiting until they get this to allow

themselves to be happy, you know, to do all those things they're doing? I know it's probably a strange

question, but I think it's something you can answer that maybe a lot of people can.

Yeah, I think the answer is that the happiness is the mindset. You could be happy right now today

if you want to be and if you have the right mindset. When I, the first couple of months I was in

prison, we're pretty hard and I didn't have the right mindset. But once I had been in there and

started to have the right mindset, even in prison, you can be happy. You just have to have the right

mindset and look at everything the right way. So one example of that, there was a fun letter that

was circulating around in the prison. It was called like the top 100 things about being in prison.

And at first, you think like what could be the good things about being in prison? There's nothing

good about being in prison. And granted, I would much rather be on the outside than in prison,

but there actually are a lot of nice things about being in prison if you have the right mindset.

And so some examples of these things that were on the list about the top 100 things about being

in prison is you don't have to worry about what you're going to cook for dinner.

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