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Saturn Returns with Caggie

*Moments* What is narcissistic behaviour? With Florence Given

Saturn Returns with Caggie

Caggie Dunlop

Education, Mental Health, Health & Fitness, Religion & Spirituality, Self-improvement

4.8892 Ratings

🗓️ 20 November 2022

⏱️ 5 minutes

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Summary

Artist, Sunday Times Bestselling Author and podcaster, Florence Given, is the guest on Saturn Returns this week! In todays ‘moment’, you’ll get a sneak preview of Florence and Caggies' conversation about abusive relationships, the reason why some people harbour narcissistic characteristics, and why empathy without boundaries gives energy to unacceptable behaviour. The main episode, which goes live tomorrow, touches upon female friendship dynamics, sexuality and queerness, Florence’s memories of both losing and re-discovering herself throughout secondary school and what it truly means to be a woman in today's society. You can follow Florence Given here. --- Follow or subscribe to "Saturn Returns" for future episodes, where we explore the transformative impact of Saturn's return with inspiring guests and thought-provoking discussions. Follow Caggie Dunlop on Instagram to stay updated on her personal journey and you can find Saturn Returns on Instagram, YouTube and TikTok.  Order the Saturn Returns Book. Join our community newsletter here.  Find all things Saturn Returns, offerings and more here.

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0:00.0

Hello everyone and happy Sunday I hope you're having a lovely weekend and I wanted to share with you a moment, a highlight from tomorrow's episode where I am joined by the one and only Florence given.

0:19.0

For those of you who aren't familiar with Florence, she is a writer. She's written to incredible books, one called

0:25.1

Girl Crash and one called Women Don't Oh You Pretty and I highly suggest giving

0:29.8

them both a read. Here is the moment from tomorrow's episode. I hope you enjoy it and don't

0:35.6

forget to listen to the show tomorrow. I've experienced what I now realize through years of research and years of reading books and years of watching Dr. Ravanin's YouTube videos.

0:47.5

She's the world's leading expert on narcissism.

0:49.5

And I now realize I've experienced it many times and it's funnily enough for exactly the reason you just

0:56.0

said before about you said you understand that people do bad things because they're hurting and while that is true it's having that

1:07.1

belief at the forefront of my mind that has constantly excused the bad actions of other people

1:11.9

and have had me keeping my arms open to them.

1:15.0

And while relationship abuse is never your fault, there needs to be acknowledged that there's a pattern

1:20.8

forming, for me at least, I needed to acknowledge that there was a pattern forming, for me at least, I needed to acknowledge there was a pattern forming

1:24.0

of my own kindness, which is a beautiful thing, actually working against me.

1:29.3

And there's a quote around social media about empathy is incredible but empathy without boundaries

1:36.4

of self-harm and that is essentially what had happened to me is that I was such a

1:42.1

proud nice woman and I proud of myself on that identity

1:48.1

that even the idea and again that society programmed but it is my responsibility to change it no one else is coming to save me and I think that the really shitty thing to learn was that I had chosen these people and that doesn't mean it was my fault but there was something in me that

2:06.0

wanted to win over their approval and you know of course that game of approval seeking is created

2:12.4

by the narcissist with the love bombing and the affection and then the immediate withdrawal of this.

2:17.3

You literally have addictive symptoms where you need it back and they're the only person who can supply you this drug. They're the only person who can give you.

2:25.6

And then they give it back to you and then you're so happy and then they do the bad thing again.

2:29.6

And this is kind of the cycle that you get trapped in and the more that these acts of abuse occur,

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