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Saturn Returns with Caggie

*Moments* The Saviour complex and the cost of the things we don’t say…

Saturn Returns with Caggie

Caggie Dunlop

Education, Mental Health, Health & Fitness, Religion & Spirituality, Self-improvement

4.8892 Ratings

🗓️ 6 November 2022

⏱️ 7 minutes

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Summary

Human Connection Specialist, podcast host and Create The Love founder Mark Groves, is back on Saturn Returns! His last episode was so well loved that Caggie has invited Mark back onto the podcast for another enriching conversation about love and relationships. The full episode will be available to listen to tomorrow, however, to give you an insight into the full conversation, this playful ‘moment’ explores the subconscious programming that is often at play in relationships, that may stem from childhood. Also, how resentment in a relationship can slowly build when we don’t share our truth. The full episode explores themes such as: the pursuit of unavailability; vulnerability and healing patterns; victimhood and victim mentality and why we should take ownership and responsibility for what happens to us as well as how we can more fully show up in our partnerships. Find more about Mark Groves at https://markgroves.com  --- Follow or subscribe to "Saturn Returns" for future episodes, where we explore the transformative impact of Saturn's return with inspiring guests and thought-provoking discussions. Follow Caggie Dunlop on Instagram to stay updated on her personal journey and you can find Saturn Returns on Instagram, YouTube and TikTok.  Order the Saturn Returns Book. Join our community newsletter here.  Find all things Saturn Returns, offerings and more here.

Transcript

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0:17.0

Hello everyone and happy Sunday. I am very excited to share with you this moment from tomorrow's episode where I am joined by our favorite Mark Groves. For those of you who haven't heard of Mark he runs an incredible podcast and

0:21.5

brand called Create the Love and he was a guest a couple of seasons back on Saturn returns and we had a very special conversation and so I'm so pleased to have him back on the show because he's been an incredible teacher and friend to me and so you're

0:37.1

going to love this episode. Don't forget to tune in tomorrow if you want to hear from me and Mark and this very fun conversation

0:45.7

that we had which unpacks a lot around relationships and give me much food for thought listening back so you won't want to miss it.

0:57.0

There's space for all of us in the relationship, even the kid who wants most of the fucking cookie.

1:07.0

Like, I wanted that big piece of cake.

1:11.0

Seriously.

1:12.0

And there's only a few things that she'll actually take the bigger piece,

1:16.2

but it's usually something that she likes and I'm not as much of a fan of, but man,

1:20.0

I gotta tell you, never think personal growth is sharing like a dessert but it is.

1:24.5

No I love that because like I completely relate and I think everyone listening will and that

1:29.6

we'll all have our own stuff like you said it's I've been thinking a lot recently about how

1:34.4

relationships long-term relationships get to that point where they say I

1:40.9

don't know how we got here.

1:43.0

So I look at my parents, my parents a divorce,

1:46.0

and I think about it, and I think about it,

1:49.0

and I think at one point they were in love.

1:51.0

So how did they get to where you know they ended up? I hope my

1:55.3

mom won't mind me showing that but and so I've just because I've also never

1:59.4

really I'm like going into a long-term relationship now I'm in one and that's the first time for me and it brings up a lot of fear but I think that piece about the voice in your head it's like often that stems from a childhood experience where like you say you if you didn't eat that cake or like grab it while you could it was gone and for me it goes back to a thing of wanting to be perhaps so I seek in relationship

2:27.6

That kind of being taken care of thing that because of my how I showed up in not how I showed up that's the wrong way of saying it but my role in family was like the mediator and quite quiet and didn't want to make too much of a fuss of things because there would be an explosion so it was actually always trying to calm things down.

2:48.0

So now in relationship there's a part of me that's like I want to be taken care of I want to do you know what I mean because they didn't didn't get that and so I have to really notice it and my partner and I have conversations where he's like I have to notice and not play into the savior

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