I wanted to talk to you about boundaries.

Yes, of course.

Because something that's in your incredible new book,

you've got this amazing chapter called Energy,

and in there, you really dive into boundaries.

And it's something that I'm asked about, and I love to to talk about so much because I think without boundaries in motherhood you are likely to

feel overwhelmed and burn out but it's so hard yeah particularly if you've not particularly

if you've been raised as a good girl or as a pleaser or to tend to

other people's feelings to say no or this doesn't work for me or we're doing it this way or i hear you

but sorry it's really hard it's really hard especially to learn when you're probably already

disregulated and exhausted. I know.

And you've done years of being that way of a people pleaser or the good girl and then suddenly

you're meant to change.

Yeah.

It's really difficult, really challenging.

Because I think so many mothers say to me, I get it so.

Like I get why I need boundaries.

I can see why I'm saying yes, I mean, no. I can see I'm

doing too much, but I just can't seem to get across the line. I hear that a lot too. And one of the

pieces of work I do with clients, I mean, it's all linked. You've already said it's already linked

into those old inner scripts of people pleasing, a sense of self, you know, whether we have a

secure sense of ourself and belief in ourselves, self-worth, who are we to think that we can put

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