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Is it real then? Postpartum depression and anxiety? Yeah, yeah. I think it's real. I mean,

obviously there's a spectrum in terms of the severity of postpartum depression and anxiety? Yeah, yeah. I think it's real. I mean, obviously there's a spectrum in terms of the severity of postpartum depression.

So it can be something from mild and it can go all the way to much more severe kinds of postpartum

depression or anxiety, which can lead people to need to be hospitalized.

And across that diversity in terms of how people are presenting, how mothers are presenting,

there's different sorts of interventions that you may use.

I mean, for many women, maybe in the sort of mild to moderate, talk therapy and actually

exercise, which is in itself, I laugh when I say that because I know what it's like with

time pressure,

but we know that there's actually like a dose response kind of relationship with mood and

exercise. I actually did my dissertation on that. So I'm aware that if we can get people moving,

we can actually improve mood and we have all sorts of hormones and things that can be at play there. But I also think

that part of it is also that when we have movement in our body, it allows us to complete

stress cycles as well that we otherwise may not be completing. So if we aren't getting enough

movement, whether that's in exercise or dancing or yoga or whatever it is that you're doing,

we may be actually holding stress in our body.

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