Molly O’Toole on Immigration
The Al Franken Podcast
ASF Productions
4.6 • 7.7K Ratings
🗓️ 9 February 2025
⏱️ 45 minutes
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Summary
Donald Trump ran on a platform of mass deportations. Now that he's back in the White House, what does that look like? We're joined by Pulitzer Prize winning journalist Molly O'Toole, whose upcoming book “The Route” details global migration through the Americas. Molly has spoken to hundreds of migrants making their way from war-torn countries to be in the U.S. and sheds some light on the VERY difficult American immigration process. We discuss Trump's rhetoric versus what is ACTUALLY happening with deportations and why creating an environment of fear isn't helping the problem.
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| 0:33.0 | Hey, everybody. |
| 0:34.2 | We got a great one today, you know, for a change because my guest is |
| 0:38.8 | Full Surprised winning journalist Molly O'Toole, whose beat is immigration. You know, I was on the |
| 0:44.6 | Judiciary Committee where in 2013, we in the Senate passed comprehensive immigration reform. |
| 0:51.6 | But of course, it never made it to the house. |
| 0:55.6 | Now, in the past week, Christy Noem, the head of the Department of Homeland Security, |
| 1:01.0 | she's the one who shot her dog. |
| 1:03.7 | Christy Noam revoked temporary protected status for 350,000 Venezuelans currently living in our country, although I'd be willing to bet |
| 1:14.1 | that it was Stephen Miller's idea. Anyway, my guest, Molly O'Toole, will talk me through what this |
| 1:22.4 | means for those 350,000 Venezuelans who have been under temporary protected status. But before we get to |
| 1:30.8 | that, I just want to touch on the exciting news we got from President Trump, who announced |
| 1:35.4 | during his press conference with Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu, Trump announced his brilliant |
| 1:41.5 | plan to turn Gaza into the Riviera of the Middle East. |
| 1:47.9 | And unlike our complicated immigration system, this plan is brilliant in its simplicity. |
| 1:54.1 | All that it involves is deporting approximately two million Gazans to Jordan and Egypt, where they can live comfortably and |
| 2:04.1 | most importantly, safely. Then the United States would rebuild Gaza and turn it into the Riviera |
| 2:13.4 | of the Middle East, a win-win. But how about a win-win-win? |
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