Hi, I'm Zivie Owens, and this is Moms Don't Have Time to Read Books.

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I'm thrilled to welcome Molly Flat here today.

Molly is the author of the novel The Charmed Life of Alex Moore.

She's a journalist and author who writes about the way technology changes the way we think,

work, and live.

She's the associate editor of Future Book and writes about technology, publishing, and culture for the BBC, The work, and live. She's the associate editor of Future Book and writes about

technology, publishing, and culture for the BBC, The Guardian, and other publications. She

contributed a story entitled A Darker Wave to the Science Fiction Anthology Women Invent

the Future and she currently lives in the UK. Welcome, Molly. Thank you so much. It's lovely

to be with you, sort of. Molly and I were introduced by

Jeff Norton, who was on the podcast last week. So it's nice to finally get to chat. Yeah, it's

lovely to be connected. So, Molly, I started reading all the essays that you've published that you

have on your website, one of which is called What It's Like to Have a Baby in Zone 1. And I was so surprised to find out that your husband delivered your

baby in your freezing cold bathroom with a cell phone operator on the floor. You have to tell

me this story. Oh, well, you'd almost think we did it just so I could get an evening standard article.

I mean, to be honest, that's one of the few compensations it made for a really good birth story.

The backstory is that, so I had decided that I wanted a home birth.

This was only a kind of a couple of weeks before my daughter was due back in 2016.

And so, you know, but obviously was planning on having some midwives there.

So we were hooked up with NHS kind of local midwife team.

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