Hey Campbell, thanks for joining us on Atwood Unleashed. How are you doing?

Good. Hey Steven, it's great to be here. How are you doing?

Wonderful. Thank you very much for asking. It's good.

Maybe you could just start by letting our listeners and viewers know what it is you do exactly.

Yeah, absolutely. My name is Campbell Marrera. I'm a Canadian skeptic.

I co-host and co-founded the Invisible Night School, a weekly live YouTube show podcast.

And we talk about paranormal subjects, mainly UFOs from an analytic perspective.

And I'm also the creator of uapstudy.com, where I detail my journey through the UFO subject.

Wonderful. You know what? It's so lovely and refreshing to get a skeptic on about this issue.

I am a self-described skeptic myself and I've spoken to many UFO advocates on this show.

And they all are firmly in the camp of aliens or other supernatural explanations.

And the strange thing about this subject for me is I'm kind of kind of disappointed.

It's not aliens. I don't know how you feel about that.

You know, I agree with you in some ways. I'm concerned about the idea of aliens arriving because of the historic precedent of, you know,

even intellectually equivalent and technologically superior culture is interacting.

It's never a good thing for the technologically reduced, like the lower civilization.

So I have some concerns on that front, but also it would be so transformative and everything.

It would be exciting. So, you know, I have mixed feelings.

Yeah, I did see that incredible documentary Independence Day once and it really gave cause for concern for sure.

And so I mean, maybe it's worth discussing a lot of what we do have because I used to love UFO stories as a big ex files fan as a teenager and then I.

So I came an adult. I kind of I feel like I grew out of it a little bit and I developed most, you know, critical approach to these things.

And it seemed the longest time that we didn't really have anything concrete to go on.

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