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‘Modern Love’: Reneé Rapp on Blurring the Line Between Bestie and Lover

The Daily

The New York Times

Daily News, News

4.4102.8K Ratings

🗓️ 27 July 2025

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

The pop singer and actress Reneé Rapp has a deep love for her friends. She maintains a nonstop group chat with more than 15 close friends every day. Their lives are so intertwined that the line between platonic and romantic can sometimes get blurry, particularly since many of them have dated each other. Rapp, best known for her role in the Broadway musical and new film adaptation “Mean Girls,” has an upcoming album, “Bite Me,” which delves into the intimacy and messiness of friendships, not just romantic relationships. Mirroring her album’s themes, Rapp walks Modern Love host Anna Martin through various vulnerable moments she has recently shared with friends, including one with her best friend and former “The Sex Lives of College Girls” co-star Alyah Chanelle Scott. It’s no surprise that Rapp chose to read the Modern Love essay “This is What Happens When Friends Fall in Love” by Sammy Sass. The piece resonates with her own experiences of sustaining love within queer friendships. While Rapp says she doesn’t have a blueprint, she has learned to navigate misunderstandings and express genuine love to those closest to her.

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0:00.0

Love now and

0:04.3

Love was stronger than anything

0:07.9

And I love. And I love you more than anything.

0:12.4

There's to love. Love.

0:15.2

From the New York Times, I'm Anna Martin. This is Modern Love. Every week, we bring you stories about love, lust,

0:22.6

heartbreak, all the messiness of human relationships. Today on the show, actor and singer,

0:28.9

Renee Rap. Renée is most known for her role in the recent Tina Fey produced musical, Mean Girls.

0:37.0

On Broadway and in the movie version,

0:39.2

Renee played Regina George,

0:41.6

queen of the Mean Girls at School, known as the Plastics.

0:45.5

Oh my God, you are literally being so annoying.

0:49.0

You know the plastics.

0:50.2

They're rude.

0:51.6

They're hot.

0:52.5

They're well-dressed.

0:53.6

And above all else, they are so much cooler than you.

0:58.2

So we never really do this, but...

1:00.9

You're invited to eat lunch with us for the rest of the week?

1:03.0

Oh, that's okay.

1:05.0

On Wednesdays, we wear pink.

1:08.0

In real life, though, Renee is open. She's warm. She's charmingly chaotic and she is extremely candid. And her emotions are also on full display in her music.

1:19.5

Her first time, make me hate Boston. It's off an entire city because they don't love you back and that's where they live

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