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Modern Love

Modern Love Presents: Sugar Calling

Modern Love

The New York Times

Love, New York Times, Nytimes, Essay, Loss, Storytelling, Society & Culture, Redemption, Nyt

4.39K Ratings

🗓️ 9 April 2020

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Summary

Modern Love presents an excerpt of the first episode of “Sugar Calling." Hear Cheryl Strayed in conversation with the author George Saunders, her old friend and mentor from graduate school.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello.

0:07.0

Hi, it's Cheryl.

0:11.0

I know.

0:12.0

How are you doing?

0:14.0

Good.

0:15.0

We're not getting in here.

0:16.0

Hi, I'm Cheryl Strayed.

0:18.0

I'm a writer and some people know me as dear sugar.

0:22.0

So, a couple of days ago, I called my old friend and writing teacher George Saunders to check in.

0:29.0

So, isolating even more than we usually do, which is really saying something.

0:32.0

Right.

0:33.0

To be a writer and told, okay, now you have to socially distance.

0:37.0

And you're like, yeah, that's what I've been doing for decades, right?

0:40.0

No, exactly.

0:41.0

No, if you don't know George's work, you're in for a treat.

0:45.0

He's a magnificent writer.

0:47.0

He's written several books among them, Lincoln and the Bardot, Pastoralia, Tenth of December.

0:52.0

He's also written many beautiful short stories that appear in the New Yorker.

0:57.0

And whenever I read his work, I get that feeling of magnificence, that feeling of being truly transformed and lifted.

1:08.0

He's done it as a writer, but he's also done it as a person.

1:12.0

University, where I was once one of your students and you were my teacher in the first...

1:16.0

Star students, I'm here to start.

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