Modern fraud solutions for modern fraud problems, with Rob Meakin

How to Lend Money to Strangers

Brendan le Grange

Credit, Fintech, Management, Lending, Banking, Business, Careers

5 • 2.6K Ratings

🗓️ 30 October 2025

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

We’re increasingly seeing collaboration between cybercrime, fraud, organised crime and money laundering. Organisations face mounting challenges in protecting their digital infrastructure and customers from fraudulent activities - and this is true in developed and developing markets. Developed countries tend to have more developed risk controls, but they remain attractive to fraudsters because of the scale of opportunity they represent - more work for frausters, yes, but more reward. Developing countries, on the other hand, typically have less robust digital ecosystems but they have the perfect opportunity to leapfrog into a secure and trusted new online world.

In today's episode, I find out how Rob Meakin and his Fraud and Identity team at CreditInfo are helping lenders adjust.

You can start your CreditInfo journey over at https://creditinfo.com/# and jump from there to the market that you're most interested in, or find the study we speak about right here: https://chronicle.creditinfo.com/2025/04/22/the-importance-of-trust-in-digital-interactions-the-cornerstone-of-a-digital-economy/

You can find Rob on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/robmeakin/

And you can find me there, too, of course, at https://www.linkedin.com/in/brendanlegrange/ Folloe the show, too, at https://www.linkedin.com/company/how-to-lend-money-to-strangers

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0:00.0	you know, you can put as many controls that you want into combat fraud at the front end,
0:05.3	but see, yeah, consumers become completely intolerance of any friction in those interactions
0:10.9	that they have with financial services companies. And that becomes very critical when you're
0:17.1	entering into a new relationship with the consumer. You know, you've got one chance to make a good impression there.
0:24.4	But all we're really trying to do is to answer three simple questions for clients.
0:29.2	Is this presented identity, a genuine identity?
0:33.0	Am I interacting with the owner of identity?
0:36.3	And are there any risk factors associated with that
0:39.2	identity I've been presented with?
0:45.3	My first job involved building fraud detection models and so whenever I hear about innovation
0:51.2	in that space, I'm interested. My second job involved working in Kenya, and so whenever I hear about innovation in that space, I'm interested. My second job involved working in Kenya,
0:56.6	and so whenever I hear about innovation in that market, I'm interested. In today's episode,
1:02.5	I'm talking to Rob Meekin from the Credit Info Group about fraud detection models in Kenya. And so,
1:08.7	of course, I was doubly interested to hear what he had to say.
1:22.5	Right. Well, Rob Meekin, director for fraud and identity at the Credit Info Group, welcome to the show.
1:30.6	Rob, your entry into financial services is different to most.
1:36.8	No, I studied at chemistry at University, and that was my love all the way through school,
1:40.8	really. And, you know, coming out of university, teaching was an opportunity to travel in some way.
1:45.7	So I did the teacher training and then to speared off to Greece for a few years,
1:50.2	which was a great experience.
1:52.1	And then came back to the UK and started teaching high school chemistry.
1:55.2	And to be fair, it's probably a different proposition entirely to the little kids out
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