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Thrivetime Show | Business School without the BS

Mo Edjlali | With Experience Spanning NASA, Fortune 500 Companies, and Two Decades In Technology, Mo Edjlali Shares How to Gain Traction In This World of Perpetual Distraction + Yuval Noah Harari's Views On Dataism?

Thrivetime Show | Business School without the BS

Clay Clark

Business, Entrepreneurship

4.71.5K Ratings

🗓️ 17 September 2025

⏱️ 38 minutes

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0:00.0

Attention, much like your daily allowance of money, is a limited resource, and in any particular moment, you can only have that much of it.

0:12.0

We live in an age of constant distractions. 9 to 5 is out, 24-7 is in. With my smartphone in hand, I bring my work with me everywhere. But our devices make us

0:23.1

less attentive. Having spent 10 years doing research in neurobiology, I wondered what technology

0:29.1

does to our brains. I set out to understand the science of distractions and learn how to be more

0:35.1

focused and boost our productivity.

0:39.6

By some measures were bombarded by more than 63 notifications a day.

0:43.8

We receive over 90 emails and write about 40 of them.

0:47.4

On average, we switch tasks every three minutes.

0:50.2

When we face distractions, two areas of the brain, the parietal cortex and the frontal cortex,

0:56.0

are in a sort of tug of war with each other.

0:58.0

Some research suggests that the parietal cortex responds to distractions.

1:02.0

The frontal cortex, which is involved in cognitively demanding tasks,

1:06.0

helps us maintain focus, so we get distracted if the activity of the parietal cortex gets

1:11.7

through to the frontal cortex. If the frontal cortex can keep the parietal in check, you stay

1:16.7

focused. The brain is deciding what's important and what's not, and that takes effort.

1:22.7

Even when you're cleaning your mailbox and you're not actually doing hard cognitive work, you kind of actually are

1:30.5

because there's all these essentially micro decisions looking at this email, do I need this?

1:36.5

And so each of those decisions requires a little bit more of cognitive effort. And so but when you add

1:43.9

2,000 of those you end up with no no power to make

1:49.8

any other important decisions after that you feel depleted.

1:55.1

Tell me a little bit about the study that you did focused on email.

1:58.2

What we found was that checking email more frequently throughout the day

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