Okay, we are alive. Hi, this is William Ramsey. Welcome to William Ramsey.

It investigates on today's show of a very special guest to returning guests. His name is Dr. Hans Uter.

Last name is spelled Utti-T-E-R. And this will be eighth part in our series about MK. Ultra

Music is the weapon from Manson to the technotronic control state. And he's definitely one of my most listened to guests.

Like people consistently send me very good compliments about him.

And his research, really original.

Research, I haven't seen anything like it anywhere else.

But really going back to the 60s and the 50s.

And some of the names of that may not as shared these days, like Bateson

or some of these other guys behind the scenes at the Grateful Dead.

So I'm always interested in listening to him.

So welcome back to the show, Hans Uter.

All right.

You know, that's my gym teacher when I was in eighth or ninth grade,

call me Hans Euter, Hans Utter. Now, that was like traumatic, right? She was, it was a difficult time,

hands uters now. But, no, William, it's great to be back here. And all, you know, joking aside.

Yeah, so I thought, well, I thought, actually, if you don't mind, we'll start out.

This is just a song we recorded.

I recorded it home a couple days ago.

It's not me singing.

And this is Ganesh, this Ganesh removal of obstacles.

It's a, using the sound, the resonant tones in this particular name of the elephant-headed deity, Ganesh.

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