Welcome to another segment of the Grasse, and all.

This is December 20, 2006.

And with us today are the Brothers Collins, Philip and Paul.

This all began a long time ago with, they're talking about their first work, I believe

first published work, which was the ascendancy of the scientific dictatorship.

And here we are. And by the way, guys, first of all, hello and the Ascendency of the Scientific Decaturorship. And here we are.

And by the way, guys, first of all, hello and welcome back.

Thanks for having us, Viz.

And let me ask you, what year was that published?

Oh, the first edition of the Ascendency was published in 2003.

And the new edition is 2006.

It's twice the size of the original.

And before that, Paul actually authored a book by himself.

It was called The Hidden Face of Terrorism.

It was released 2002.

All I did with was edited.

The reason I ask is, I guess, at this time of the year you kind of

look back a little bit more than you do normally and um you know the time is so i must have had you on

not long after that a sentence he came out yeah yeah it was very shortly after it was released three

years ago oh yeah we did the magician's immutability series.

That's right.

Did you get a chance to listen to any of the president's press conference?

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