Hello and welcome sentimental garbage, the podcast where we talk about the culture

we love that society sometimes makes us feel ashamed of. My name is Caroline and I'm begging of you

please don't take my man and she's not the girlfriend, she not the mistress, she's the

goumar. It's Madeline Gray. I had to Google what that meant last night.

I'm so glad that for once I shared my episode notes in advance.

Yes, a Guma is a mafia term for a mistress.

Wow, I should have watched the soprano who's in lockdown like everyone else did.

Yeah I feel like I've been waiting maybe my whole life to use it professionally in a sentence and now I've taken that off.

Yeah but when I was googling it it was suggesting that it was a mistress but also kind of like another mother, almost a kind of maternal figure, and I liked that kind of dual role.

As somebody who's been thinking about mistresses for some time I imagine it was nice to add

dimensionality to your understanding absolutely yeah all I've got is like Husi and

side chick so that's a great one see side chick now gumah soeline Gray, can I call you Mary? Please, everybody does.

You have written a book called Green Dot that like if you're in any way switched

on to the book press at all like people people have

frugged it is it is everywhere at the moment and for like very good reason

in that it's just been a really long time since a literary novel was this funny. I really really loved it but when we reached out to do a show with you

mistresses came back immediately and my favorite kind of episodes to do on the show is not movies or albums.

It's like concepts that exist in the culture that we just accept a set kind of bunch of traits

about and then we move on from and we don't really

delve into enough and so today we're delving into mistresses.

Absolutely I'm very excited I've clearly thought about this a lot for like four years

so yeah yes so give me first of thought about this a lot for like four years.

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