Miss the Old Kanye? Try the New Kanye.

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🗓️ 7 September 2021

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

West has always been dreaming big, speaking loudly, courting controversy and channeling all of that into music. But one thing has changed. Guests: Vibe's Datwon Thomas and The Ringer's Justin Charity.

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0:00.0	Don't come at me loud of music news and criticism. I am your host, Junker or Monica.
0:12.4	It's Don to season. It's not Don to day or week. If you've been paying attention for the last
0:20.7	several weeks, it is indeed Don to season. Kanye put out his tenth album. It is, I think,
0:28.1	the biggest album release of the year from a consumption perspective. If you would have said three
0:34.3	months ago that Kanye was going to go essentially from ice cold to the number one album in the country,
0:38.8	that would have been a challenging proposition to think about. But here we are.
0:44.0	Kanye has done a series of stadium events, listening sessions, come theatrical performances.
0:50.2	He made music in the basement of Mercedes-Benz Stadium. He flew the locks in on a private jet.
0:56.4	He wore a jacket that had spikes to repellent bears. He built a house in the center of
1:02.8	soldier field and set it on quasi-fire and then walked off with Kim wearing a wedding dress.
1:10.9	The symbology is all over the place. We're going to talk about all of it on this week's episode.
1:16.0	I was glad a couple weeks ago that we got to talk to Rachel and Steph about the style.
1:20.9	Now we're going to talk about the music, the rollout, the bigger picture of Kanye and how he
1:26.1	functions in pop culture right now. First day-to-on-toms is going to call in. Day-to-on is the editor
1:31.4	of I. Day-to-on and I go back a very long way. We're going to talk about regarding and absorbing Kanye
1:39.6	over the years and how it differs now, or maybe doesn't differ. Probably doesn't differ.
1:44.9	Then it did 5, 10, 15, even 20 years ago. Then the boy Justin Charity is going to call in Justin
1:52.8	just wrote a piece basically saying Kanye has been telling you all along who he is, but now you
1:59.3	are different. He's not. That's an important point and I wanted to spend a little time with Justin
2:03.7	talking through that. Before we get to Justin, Day-to-on-toms is here. Day has been writing.
2:10.7	Basically, as long as I've been writing and editing as long as I've been in the game,
2:14.8	so day currently is the editor's chief of vibe. Also, consultants and producers on award shows,
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