Hey everybody, welcome to the Doctors' Pharmacy. This is Dr. Mark Heimann and I'm delighted

today to have as our guest Miriam Horn, an extraordinary environmentalist who's challenging

our assumptions about how to fix our environmental crises. She's written three books, Rebels

and White Gloves, coming of age with Hillary's class, Wellesley 1969, Earth the sequel, the

Race to Reinvent Energy, Stop Global Warming, which was co-authored with the Environmental

Defense Fund's President Fred Krupp in the book was a New York Times best seller, and

we're going to talk about today Rancher Farmer Fisherman, Conservation Heroes of the American

Heartland, which was a Kirkers Review's best book of the year, and she used a film which

I recommend you all watch called Rancher Farmer Fisherman based on the book, which had

its world premiere at the 2017 Sundance Film Festival and was aired globally on Discovery

in August 2017. Now before joining the Environmental Defense Fund, Ms. Horn spent 15 years writing

for US News and World Report, she's no slouch. The New York Times, Ms. Sonya and other publications,

her first job was at the US Forest Service in Colorado and she has a bachelor's degree

from Harvard and completed two years of post-graduate study in Earth and Environmental Sciences at

Columbia University, not to mention that she was a Japan Society Amina Fellow in 2012,

a clean energy team she led at Environmental Defense Fund won the ZAD Future Energy Prize.

So stay tuned that conversation is coming up next on the Doctors Pharmacy.

I'm so happy to have you here. Welcome. Thank you. I'm thrilled to be here.

So I want to get into your background a little bit, but you know what really fascinates me

is that we have a lot of assumptions about the environment, about saving the environment,

you challenge some of these assumptions and look at some big players that we often think

are the enemy, ranchers, farmers, fishermen that are destroying the planet, depleting the oceans,

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