MIRACLE ENDS: 4/4: America Second: How America's Elites Are Making China Stronger, by Isaac Stone Fish @isaacstonefish.
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MIRACLE ENDS: 4/4: America Second: How America's Elites Are Making China Stronger, by Isaac Stone Fish @isaacstonefish.
Isaac Stone Fish @isaacstonefish. Founder and CEO of Strategy Risks; Washington Post Global Opinions contributing columnist; visiting Fellow, Atlantic Council; columnist on China risk at Barron's, fluent in Mandarin Chinese language.
https://www.amazon.com/America-Second-Americas-Elites-Stronger/dp/0525657703/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
In America Second, Isaac Stone Fish traces the evolution of the Party’s influence in America. He shows how America’s leaders initially welcomed China’s entry into the U.S. economy, believing that trade and engagement would lead to a more democratic China. And he explains how—although this belief has proven misguided--many of our businesspeople and politicians have become too dependent on China to challenge it
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| 0:00.0 | This is CBSI in the world. I'm John Bouch with Isaac Stonefish. His new book is America's |
| 0:09.3 | second. How America's elites are making China stronger. Isaac is not only an author and |
| 0:15.4 | a journalist, he's also the CEO of Strategy Risks, asked answering questions about how to |
| 0:21.6 | work with China, especially this anxiety people have, will I lose business. Now big news |
| 0:27.9 | organizations worry about China. It's not just Hollywood. Bloomberg worries about China. Forbes, |
| 0:33.4 | magazine worries about China. And Isaac has detailed anecdotes about that. The Washington post, |
| 0:41.0 | everybody has to worry when putting journalists into China or trying to write about China in a way |
| 0:47.2 | that displeases the leadership. However, we come now to the American people. And have I written |
| 0:54.1 | this number down correctly, 89% of the American people went pulled. Believe that China is either an |
| 1:00.2 | adversary or is extremely, is extremely competitive to the point of challenging. Is that 89% |
| 1:09.0 | is that still colonizing it? It's a very high number, whatever it is, surprisingly high. I think |
| 1:15.6 | the experiences of the pandemic, learning about Xinjiang and understanding that American |
| 1:23.4 | exceptionalism might have a timeline on it has really radically shifted the ways that Americans |
| 1:28.5 | have thought about China. What's surprising is that the men and women who led the change of |
| 1:36.1 | opinion about China are not with the 89% of the American people. All right, three possibilities |
| 1:43.6 | presented. What has to be done? We either yield to China, we overthrow China or we contain China. |
| 1:53.8 | Right now, I can't say which one we're following. Can you, Isaac, and culturally? We don't need |
| 1:59.0 | to worry about the politics of the moment. Culturally, where is America on China now? |
| 2:05.9 | You mentioned in the beginning how things are shifting day to day. And the Russian invasion of |
| 2:13.0 | Ukraine has really made people second-guess ties to China because they're understanding, well, |
| 2:21.1 | if China invades Taiwan, will there be this quick forced decoupling of an economy that we trade |
| 2:28.4 | more than 25 times more with than we do with Russia? And I would say it is right now an amalgam |
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