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MIRACLE ENDS: 3/4: America Second: How America's Elites Are Making China Stronger, by Isaac Stone Fish @isaacstonefish.

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🗓️ 27 August 2023

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MIRACLE ENDS: 3/4: America Second: How America's Elites Are Making China Stronger, by Isaac Stone Fish @isaacstonefish.

Isaac Stone Fish @isaacstonefish. Founder and CEO of Strategy Risks; Washington Post Global Opinions contributing columnist; visiting Fellow, Atlantic Council; columnist on China risk at Barron's, fluent in Mandarin Chinese language.

https://www.amazon.com/America-Second-Americas-Elites-Stronger/dp/0525657703/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=

In America Second, Isaac Stone Fish traces the evolution of the Party’s influence in America. He shows how America’s leaders initially welcomed China’s entry into the U.S. economy, believing that trade and engagement would lead to a more democratic China. And he explains how—although this belief has proven misguided--many of our businesspeople and politicians have become too dependent on China to challenge it

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0:00.0

This is CBSI In The World. I'm John Batser. Isaac Stonefish is the author of America's

0:10.1

second, his new book, How America's Elites Are Making China Stronger. The politicians

0:14.9

are not well paid, but they're certainly in the news all the time. These celebrities

0:20.8

are extremely well paid, and they're in the news when they make political statements.

0:26.0

Richard Gare, one of the great Hollywood romantic stars of the 20th century, I learned from

0:32.7

Isaac that Richard Gare disappeared from my understanding of who's a big star because

0:38.9

he's a man of principle. The principle for Richard Gare was Tibet. And what do we know

0:44.7

Isaac about China reaching out and crushing or delimiting Richard Gare's career?

0:51.2

The early 90s, Richard Gare gave a very moving, very quick-sodic speech at the Oscars,

0:58.5

criticizing Deng Xiaoping the then leader of China for the occupation of Tibet, and asking for

1:05.4

consciousness towards what was happening. And that and the recent, at the recent understanding,

1:13.1

the recent awakening of ideas about the Bali Lama in Hollywood led to this period where in the

1:19.8

mid-90s, the cause in Hollywood was Tibet. And the feel-good celebrity was the Dalai Lama,

1:27.8

and Richard Gare was his most prominent supporter. And this happened until 1996, 1997, the high point

1:37.4

of the movement, those three films we discussed before, Kunjun, Red Corner, Seven Years in Tibet,

1:43.5

and Beijing realized that they could convince Hollywood to stop making films that had portrayals

1:54.1

of China that they found critical. And they didn't happen overnight, and Gare's career didn't

1:59.4

die overnight. It was a long, sophisticated, secretive process. But what happened by the mid-2010s

2:08.9

was Hollywood executives had developed this voice in the back of their head, which would say,

2:14.2

is this going to offend China? Is this going to offend the Chinese Communist Party?

2:17.8

If so, we're not going to do it. The last film that I was able to find from Hollywood,

2:23.2

the last major film that had anything in it, critical of China, was the departed, which came out

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