we have a very special guest today. I'm going to call my friend because I really enjoy

corresponding with him, but this is the first dance that we've had to meet and person

as we're over zoom. But his name is Dr. Homan Norchazan, and did I pronounce you right?

It's all I've done. Yeah, that's all right. Perfectly fine. You know, it's the easiest

pronunciation is Norchazan proverb. Oh, a jadlin. And I know Homan because he's on a list,

or we have a CHD that has about 240 doctors and scientists on it, and they're constantly debating.

You know, all the issues that we're concerned about, and he is a recent addition and has

caused a big storm one because he's brilliant. He's very combative. He's very, you know,

has strong beliefs that are different than in many subtle and direct ways, and other people

who are on Atlas, and he's very extremely prolific in his writing, but also, you know, very,

very compelling, and it's been really enjoyable listening to you, even though he's attacking me,

and many times they did one attack on me on medium, but I really enjoy it because it's the kind

of thing that ought to be happening in our democracy where, you know, we can debate complicated,

if occult issues, we can do it civilly and politely, and we can have science-based debates,

and that's what ought to be happening all around, and that's what we try to do on the defender.

And I urge you to follow Homan Norchism because, you know, he's very smart about this,

and he may be taking positions that you don't agree with, but, you know, he has the courage to

debate them and defend them, and let me give you a little background on Dr. Homan Norchism.

He is an MD and a PhD. He is a bachelor of arts from the University of Pennsylvania,

and a doctor of medicine also from the University of Pennsylvania.

He, let me just read you to some of his appointments, his faculty appointments,

his attending physician, Department of Surgery, Philadelphia, and VA Hospital.

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