Minisode: Mary, Mother of God: Women in Early Christianity
Breaking Down Patriarchy
Amy McPhie Allebest
4.9 • 654 Ratings
🗓️ 5 January 2022
⏱️ 29 minutes
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Amy discusses multiple texts about the Virgin Mary with guest Sophie Allebest.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Breaking Down Patriarchy. I'm Amy McPhee All the Best. |
| 0:05.0 | During our last two episodes, Sherry Crawford and I discussed Gerda Learners the creation of patriarchy, |
| 0:11.0 | and we talked about structural patriarchy in the ancient world, including in the Bible. |
| 0:16.0 | Just a couple of days after we recorded those episodes, some dear friends of mine and my husband |
| 0:22.3 | had their first baby, a little boy. They're Jewish, and we were invited to the Briss. I could not |
| 0:29.1 | believe the timing. The very week I had talked about circumcision on the podcast, what we had called |
| 0:34.6 | the penis covenant, I was going to witness a bris, which is a ritual circumcision, |
| 0:40.2 | and in Hebrew means covenant. And I saw our friends there with their new baby and their family and their |
| 0:47.4 | rabbi. And my heart was so full, I was immediately emotional. But because we had just read Gerta Lerner's book, and Gerta Lerner, by the way, |
| 0:57.2 | was also Jewish. And I think actually part of her project was confronting the male supremacy in her |
| 1:03.3 | own religious tradition. Because we had just recorded that episode, I had all of those parts of the Bible |
| 1:09.7 | that excluded women fresh in my mind. |
| 1:14.1 | And so parts of the bris were really hard for me. And I felt the way I often feel in my own |
| 1:20.3 | religious heritage, just completely left out. I just felt marginal in a spectator role as a woman, while God does the important |
| 1:31.9 | stuff with his favorite children, the boys. But it was also so beautiful. When the rabbi wrapped |
| 1:39.7 | our friends up with their baby in a Talit or prayer shawl, I felt like my heart was going to explode. |
| 1:48.1 | The love of that mother and father for each other and for their baby and the connection with |
| 1:54.2 | their ancestors and their faith tradition and that language and the community that they had so generously expanded to make me a part of |
| 2:04.3 | welcoming that baby into the world was so, so beautiful. And yet it was still hard for me. |
| 2:12.4 | And I share this because this experience of having those two experiences right next to each other, |
| 2:20.5 | recording that episode on the creation of patriarchy, and then participating in that beautiful |
| 2:26.7 | religious ceremony, just kind of showed me how complicated all of this is. |
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