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A Piece of Work

Minimalism to the Max

A Piece of Work

MoMA, WNYC Studios

Education, Visual Arts, Self-improvement, Arts, Society & Culture, Documentary

4.81.5K Ratings

🗓️ 24 July 2017

⏱️ 17 minutes

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Summary

Some artworks seem crazy simple -- like a stack of metal boxes or a group of white paintings. Minimalism rejected the idea that art should express the artist’s feelings or depict the visible world, or even be made from traditional art materials. Jo Baer and Donald Judd made art that explores the relationship between colors or objects and space -- and Abbi discovers there's more to simplicity than meets the eye. Also featuring: Mark Joshua Epstein, Flavin Judd View the artwork from this episode at wnyc.org/minimalism ---- About the podcast: From WNYC Studios and MoMA, A Piece of Work is everything you want to know about modern and contemporary art but were afraid to ask. Hosted by "Broad City"’s Abbi Jacobson, this 10-episode series explores everything from Pop art to performance in lively conversations with curators, artists, and Abbi’s friends, including Hannibal Buress, Tavi Gevinson, RuPaul, and Questlove. Produced by WNYC Studios. www.wnycstudios.org

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0:00.0

I'm Abby Jacobson and this is a piece of work. today we're talking about minimalism. The art of not that much a stack of boxes a series of blank canvases a single

0:29.6

fluorescent light it's the kind of work that people sometimes see in museums and say,

0:35.0

huh, how did this end up here?

0:39.0

You know, when I take my mom to this museum, hates these she can't handle it I mean I just

0:45.1

saw before a few young women standing in the front of this work being like you've got

0:49.9

to be kidding me to each other I can understand that. Minimalist work seems almost like anti-art. You can't

0:57.9

get a sense of the artist's hand. And that can lead you to thinking that there's nothing

1:02.2

there, no effort, no beauty.

1:05.0

But that's just not entirely true.

1:07.0

There's a lot in what seems like very little.

1:10.0

I'm standing in one of the MoMA galleries with Mark Joshua Epstein, a teaching

1:16.2

artist here. I work for the Museum of Modern Art, the Whitney Museum of

1:19.9

American Art, the Jewish Museum, and when I'm not doing any of those things, I'm in a studio space

1:25.3

in East Williamsburg of five flights of stairs.

1:28.4

And we're looking at what appears to be three blank canvases. They're squares and each has a thin colored band of paint

1:35.6

around the edge, red, green, blue, and each is surrounded by a thicker band of

1:41.4

black paint. The piece is called Primary Light Group, Red, Green, Blue, and it's by the artist Joe Bear. I personally love it. I feel like it allows me a space to be calm and think about

1:57.2

what's happening in my life. I just found it extremely peaceful. But I also don't entirely get it.

2:05.0

Whenever I go into a museum or a gallery and look at art,

2:10.0

I find, and I hope this doesn't come off as insulting as an art educator

2:14.6

bring it my thing is like I don't always want to know what the intention was

2:20.1

because I kind of am of the mindset like I was just saying this and sort of discovered it I'm like well my

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