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🗓️ 12 November 2025
⏱️ 43 minutes
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For once, Brian Cox and Robin Ince are on the same wavelength – with thinking caps firmly on, they plug into the science of brain-computer interfaces. Helping them decode the tech are neuroscientist Luke Bashford, biomedical engineer Anne Vanhoestenberghe, and comedian Phil Wang.
Together the panel switches on to the possibilities of using implanted and wearable devices to restore movement, speech, sight… or even to decode thoughts themselves. From the ethics of cognitive enhancement to the future of mind-reading and immersive gaming, strap in for this electrifyingly thought-provoking episode.
Producer: Melanie Brown Executive Producer: Alexandra Feachem A BBC Studios Production
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| 0:00.0 | BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, Podcasts. |
| 0:05.9 | Hello, on my right is Robin Ince. |
| 0:07.9 | And on my left is Brian Cox. |
| 0:09.7 | So obviously it's the other way around for those of you listening on the radio. |
| 0:12.9 | If you are looking directly at the radio, anyway. |
| 0:14.7 | So, and for those you prefer to imagine, we present the show from the bunk bed, we live in |
| 0:19.2 | in Broadcasting House house i'm on the |
| 0:20.9 | bottom bunk and brian is on the top bunk i did actually once have the top bunk but due to the |
| 0:25.0 | weight that i pushed down the mattress due to the size of my backside brian was very worried that |
| 0:29.7 | the universe was suddenly expanding towards him and was quite unable to sleep just to say because i was a |
| 0:34.9 | little bit later i being i didn't edit that bit of Robin's scripts. |
| 0:38.4 | I would have taken that out. It's true, though, isn't it? No, because then people think we like the Markham and White. No, the bunk beds, not side by side, Brian. You were fine. There's a ladder between us, both metaphorically and physical. Anyway, this is the Infinite Monkey Cage. that's the longest period of time it's taken to get to that bit. |
| 0:55.6 | So today we're discussing the new science of Brian Computer Interfaces. What is Brian Computer Interface? What new possibilities will these technologies create for human Bryans? Can Brian have a computer implanted into his brain? And if so, would we do it now and see what happens? Because I have actually, I've got |
| 1:11.3 | a chisel and I've got some dettle. And apparently that is all you need to do this |
| 1:15.8 | experiment. There's obviously a bit of comedic licence there in Robin's introduction, but it is actually |
| 1:20.5 | remarkably correct up to a slight rearrangement of the letters and the words. It is actually |
| 1:25.7 | genuinely, it's written here, right. It was written in the notes that I would say that today we were looking at Brian |
| 1:30.2 | computer interface. |
| 1:32.2 | That's actually, that was in the notes. |
| 1:34.9 | But it should say brain computer interface. |
| 1:38.2 | Nevertheless, we can still use the detol and chisel. |
| 1:40.8 | So we are joined today by a professor of active implantable medical devices, |
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