The skyrocketing cost of living has left millions of people working at full-time jobs or a number of part-time jobs still unable to afford a place to live.

Ali Rogan is back with her conversation with journalist Brian Goldstone, author of There Is No Place for Us about this growing nationwide crisis.

Thank you so much for joining us.

In your work, you've come to know many people who work, who may have more than one job,

but have come into circumstances where they cannot afford to keep a roof over their heads.

Certainly, each person has a unique story, but are there any common threads in their

experiences that you've been able to identify?

Yeah, absolutely.

You know, I do argue in my book that in cities across America today, in one city after

another, a low-wage job really is homelessness waiting to happen. And what they have in common

is they all belong to the low-wage workforce. And it's not just that their wages are too low to

keep up with the skyrocketing cost of having a place to live. It's also that the jobs themselves

have become increasingly volatile and precarious where

they often don't know how many hours they're going to be getting from one week to the next.

Their employers give them 29 hours a week because at 30 they would be eligible for basic

benefits like health insurance or sick leave.

And yeah, the cost of housing, rents are just very, very quickly outpacing

what their incomes are. So that's kind of the backdrop that defines these people's existence.

For a long time, the stereotypical perception of homelessness is that it is something that happens to people on the fringes of society.

And that may have never been accurate.

But what have you found out in your reporting about the reality of what it's like to be without a home?

Yeah, I mean, one really astonishing truth about homelessness in America is that what we

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