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Miles Taylor fights Trump’s order targeting him, calling it ‘an attack on free speech’

PBS News Hour - Segments

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4.11K Ratings

🗓️ 4 June 2025

⏱️ 9 minutes

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Summary

In 2018, an anonymous Trump administration official delivered a stark warning about the threat he said the president posed with his erratic behavior. The author was later revealed to be Miles Taylor. When Trump returned to office, he claimed Taylor’s actions could be treasonous and ordered DHS and other agencies to launch an investigation. Taylor joined Amna Nawaz to discuss his legal response. PBS News is supported by - https://www.pbs.org/newshour/about/funders

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0:00.0

In 2018, an anonymous Trump administration official delivered a stark warning about the threat he said Donald Trump posed with his, quote, erratic behavior.

0:09.8

It sent shockwaves through Washington and drew the ire of the president.

0:13.9

The author of that was later revealed to be Miles Taylor, the chief of staff at the Department of Homeland Security.

0:19.9

When President Trump re-entered the White House earlier this year, he said Taylor's actions

0:24.1

could be treasonous and signed an executive order for DHS and other government agencies to launch

0:30.0

an investigation.

0:31.3

This week, Taylor and his legal team formally asked the inspectors general at the Departments

0:36.2

of Justice and Homeland Security to investigate the order.

0:39.8

Miles Taylor joins me now. Welcome to the Newsauer. Thanks for having me.

0:43.3

So before we get into the actions you're taking right now, I just want to put to you what the executive order from the president said in revoking your security clearance.

0:50.7

He claimed that you abandoned your sacred oath by disclosing sensitive information,

0:55.0

accused you of potentially committing treason, and then ordered those agencies to investigate you.

1:00.0

I just want to get your response to those allegations.

1:03.0

Well, I think it's important to state the obvious about that, which is in the United States

1:08.0

of America, criticism of a president is not classified.

1:13.1

Criticism's not classified.

1:14.5

And I think what's so jarring about that order is I've come to think I know what the limits of Donald Trump are.

1:21.7

But the language of that order, to me, was so Orwellian in its nature to even shock, I think, the conscience of other folks,

1:30.3

that he would start to claim that personal criticism is a national security threat,

1:35.5

and not just claim that in a press release or on truth social,

1:38.8

but to launch a formal federal review to punish someone that had criticized him.

1:43.7

That is concerning to me,

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