And we're back, we're back. Welcome to the podcast that still has no name.

This is Mike.

I'm here with a special guest Jay.

Hey guys, what's going on?

Those of you who knew me from back in the day, Jay needs no introduction.

For those who are new, we're going to talk about,

really actually it's a full guide book.

Don't let the title fool you.

The book is the testosterone optimization therapy Bible.

And it is like a 550 page book loaded with references but it talks more about lifestyle

dining and everything and Jay you know Jay is closing it on 50 and he looks better than you know most people in their 20s

so let's just have an open free willing discussion on lifestyle optimization health

optimization a TRT what is TRT lifestyle optimization, health optimization,

a TRT, what is TRT, why do people go on TRT,

and take it from here.

Awesome.

Well, Mike, first off, between me and you,

it's fucking amazing that you and I are back together again it's

been too long that book was written and released in February of this year it's kind

of like an overarching expose from my first book, which you helped me with back in 2015, which was the original

TRT manual, which is still the number one rated book on Amazon for that topic or niche which is testosterone at

that time replacement therapy which we've now changed the acronym

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