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with ira ira welcome how are you i'm way busier than i ever thought i would be in august mike yeah that's true ira this is a

surprise now ira um it can look at this a couple of ways sure first of all they we're

going to go on the premise right that he could not go back to cleaver right correct all right

so looking at it from that standpoint they did get a lot for them, but it's not all immediately

helpful.

So you take it in stages.

Let's look at it first.

Look at it from the Boston standpoint.

Then we'll look at it from the Cleveland standpoint.

Go ahead.

Well, first looking for the Boston standpoint, what Danny Ains decided this summer was

he was going

to go all in with the moves he wanted. Mike, four of the primary five Boston Celtics starters

from last season are gone. Jay Crowder, Amir Johnson, Isaiah Thomas, and Avery Bradley. This is a

new Celtics team. Don't sit there trying to figure how do we fit these pieces into what was

there before. There is no there before. Not only that, they lost both, and now they're not nearly the defensive team, but they're a much better offensive team. They lost their defensive elements and Crowder and Bradley. You're entirely correct there. So what you have to say is Danny H. obviously said on this offseason saying, this is what I wanted. He wanted Gordon Hayward.

He was the number one piece. He said, I am not trading Jason Tatum. He's going to be part of my

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