Midwife describes atrocities as ICC convicts militia leader in Sudan
The World
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🗓️ 8 October 2025
⏱️ 52 minutes
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A midwife describes assisting a growing number of women experiencing sexual violence at the hands of militias in the North Darfur region of Sudan. It comes a day after a Sudanese militia leader was convicted at the ICC on charges of mass murder and sexual violence going back to 2003. Also, FIFA suspends seven members of the Malaysian national soccer team over allegations of submitting fake birth certificates. And, a father of three recounts his agonizing decision to leave Gaza City amid Israeli strikes. Plus, the BBC’s Shipping Forecast turns 100 years old.
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| 1:36.2 | And I'm Marco Wurman. Thanks for joining us today. A militia leader from Sudan has been found guilty of atrocities committed 20 years ago in the Sudanese region of Darfur. Ali Khosheb was |
| 1:42.1 | convicted at the International Criminal Court on Monday on charges of |
| 1:46.0 | mass murder and sexual violence going back to 2003. He claims it's a case of mistaken identity. |
| 1:52.7 | Khosheb is the first person to be tried for war crimes and crimes against humanity committed in Darfur. |
| 1:58.9 | Echoes of that conflict persist today in the brutal civil war that |
| 2:03.2 | has engulfed all of Sudan. In a few minutes, we're going to hear a firsthand account of what's |
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